Hello everyone can anyone help

[Mush2017]

On Thursday I was walking mush and fluzzie and notice when fluzzie had a poo she had blood around her bum, Friday normal yesterday she was sick and just now she had blood in poo and on bum again her poo isn't solid it's like moose consistency she's not off her food and seems well in herself running man playing with mush like crazy I've had her two weeks today when we had her I had to take to the vets the straight away on the Monday she was given antibiotics because she had a skin infection and then last Monday we had to go for a follow up appointment the breeder hadn't done her injections properly sorry vet give them again and wormed her

I'm going to take her to vets tomorrow have any of you ever experienced anything like this

Thanks for listening

 

[2bullymama]

Could be from shots, but I'd get a poo sample to the vet to check for parasites especially giardia.


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[Mush2017]

I never thought to take a poo sample I will definitely do that thanky6

 

[Cbrugs]

Yes, first step would be get a fecal exam done for parasites. Make sure they check for giardia.


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[Mush2017]

I Will do tnx ill let you know how she gets on tnx again

 

[Honeys Owners]

Agree with all the above, plus you should start her on probiotics, eg. Herbsmith Microflora Plus, Probiable DC. And give her a couple of teaspoons canned pumpkin ( plain, not for cake mix ) daily. Let us know how it goes !!!!

 

[davidh]

Good advise on the poo sample. Let us know what the vet has to say.

 

[Mush2017]

Thanks for all your help we went to see Vet today they said she's got Colitis her colon is inflamed they give her an injection to help settle it down and some probiotics said no food for 24hours then just white rice and fish small amounts every couple of hours

I feel so bad not feeding her she keeps coming and sitting by my feet for food

I'm hoping for improvement tomorrow x

 

[Mush2017]

Hi ya Thank You for Your advice about pumpkin here in UK it's hard get I've looked on Amazon and all I can find is

Baking Buddy Natural Pumpkin Puree, 425 g https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01EI0LRV8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_oisBzb7SRS6P5

Is this what you mean tnx Lisa

 

[Alice Kable]

You've had some good advice. I hope your fur baby is doing better! :heart:

 

[2bullymama]

Thanks for all your help we went to see Vet today they said she's got Colitis her colon is inflamed they give her an injection to help settle it down and some probiotics said no food for 24hours then just white rice and fish small amounts every couple of hours

I feel so bad not feeding her she keeps coming and sitting by my feet for food

I'm hoping for improvement tomorrow x

Can you get Tylosin ?


@honeysowner


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[Honeys Owners]

Yes, that pumpkin should be fine, about a tablespoon a day. Also give Herbsmith Microflora Plus as the probiotic since it also has prebiotics and digestive enzymes. Try switching to a previously unused protein limited ingredient dog food, eg.Canine caviar open sky, Grandma Lucy's Pureformance Rabbit, Nature Variety Instinct limited ingredient turkey,

If the colitis isn't getting better after all this, best thing would be for your dog to get a colonoscopy with biopsy to see which type of colitis she has-If your dog has histiocytic ulcerative colitis or granulomatous colitis you can treat with enrofloxacin given at a mean dose of 7 mg/kg/d for a mean duration of 9.5 weeks. They found that this colitis which is common in boxers and bulldogs is caused by bacteria sensitive to this antibiotic. And you could also add metronidazole for a couple of weeks in case there's any other bad bacteria there. That should cure these 2 colitis permanently

Hi ya Thank You for Your advice about pumpkin here in UK it's hard get I've looked on Amazon and all I can find is

Baking Buddy Natural Pumpkin Puree, 425 g https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01EI0LRV8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_oisBzb7SRS6P5

Is this what you mean tnx Lisa

 

[Honeys Owners]

Also slippery elm- Give a ¼ tsp of powder for every 10 lbs of body weight. Mix the powder into food or some yogurt.

 

[Honeys Owners]

[MENTION=1917]MunasG[/MENTION] has same problem- they just started using low fat kangaroo diet with mashed in white potato- hopefully Munas will chime in

 

[MunasG]

Thanks for all your help we went to see Vet today they said she's got Colitis her colon is inflamed they give her an injection to help settle it down and some probiotics said no food for 24hours then just white rice and fish small amounts every couple of hours

I feel so bad not feeding her she keeps coming and sitting by my feet for food

I'm hoping for improvement tomorrow x

[MENTION=2649]Mush2017[/MENTION] sorry to hear your frenchie is dealing with these issues. I understand what you're going through. Did they give here cerenia shot? As a first step i'll advise that you try putting her on a hydrolyzed proteindiet to calm the GI tract first. You can ask your vet about either Hills ZD, Royal Canin hydrolyzed protein, Purina pro plan vegetarian or even try limited ingredient novel protein diets. Most ppl don't love hydrolyzed diets but they can help in colitis situations for most dogs. If you can afford it, do a biopsy/colonscopy if food is not making a difference. Try and stay away from rice and feathered proteins as frenchies generally cannot tolerate these. Try a novel protein your dog has never had like rabbit, bison or kangaroo but introduce this food very slowly. as some have mentioned, do a fecal test to eliminate parasite issues. it may be giardia in which case a course of panacur/dewormer will take care of it but you have to disinfect everything and ensure he doesn't get reinfected. Do some research online. We finally got rid of Nellie's girder through a natural routine not panacea because she was reacting badly through it. it was giving digestive enzymes on an empty stomach and hour before food 3 times a day for 7 days. Stop for 10 days and repeat. Please consult your vet before making any decisions or course of treatment because wha works for one dog doesn't for another when it comes to GI issues. If its not parasites then you have bigger issues to worry about, in which case perhaps hearing Nellie's story might give you an idea.

My nellie is 16 months old and has had GI issues from 3 months old after a near death experience with parvo, giardia, round worm and aspiration pneumonia at 9 weeks old. She was in the ER vet for two weeks getting treated for the above. After a few days out of the ER her GI symptoms started. after months and months of diagnostics and tests, she was diagnosed with eosinophilic and lymphocytic-plasmacytic inflammatory bowel disease ( both in the upper and lower intestines). She also has esophageal reflux issues. Her main issues were chronic vomiting/regurgitation, loose mucousy stools, stomach gurgles and discomfort. She was very finicky with food and we had tried kibble, home cooked and raw diet all for several months at a time and she would vomit or regurgitate and have loose mucousy stools. Her stools were great while she was on raw but occasionally they will be mush with mucous and blood sometimes. We did X-rays, ultrasounds, barium test, bloodworm and even surgery for a hernia and nares, palate and saccules surgery. But the only way we diagnosed IBD was when she did a biopsy of her intestines during surgery which confirmed the first type of the IBD. She then contracted giardia again and that made her IBD worst. We fought the giardia for months but it was had to get rid of due to the winter. During the time, she was at her worst with bloody stool and diarrhea daily for two months and vomiting blood. We did everything, tried every medication under the sun all of which she reacted to. We tried homecoming a novel protein, treating her for ulcerative colitis and nothing. Her specialists at the time told me to prepare to put her down if things didn't turn around. Since the beginning of her symptoms, she had tried the following proteins and food and got sick from each one. Chicken, turkey, beef, duck, fish (white and salmon), rabbit, lamb. Also she reacted to fish oils, too much seen potatoes, pumpkins, most probiotics and digestive enzymes and slippery elm to name a few. All of her vets had given up on her and they decided to give me a final referral to the veterinary college two hours away from me. We went there is March of this year and they have been a Godsend. They did another endocolonscopy and confirmed she had another type of IBD which is similar to churn's disease and her colon was very very inflamed. She also had a bleeding ulcer in the small intestine and colon. They put her on a two week course of omeprazole to treat the ulcer and the bloody poop and vomit stopped. They sent her biopsies to California for second and third opinions and then started a course of treatment. At the time we went to visit them, Nellie was on a diet of hydrolyzed protein by Royal Canin, before that she had tried 2 other hydrolyzed protein diets and they did not work for her. Hydrolyzed diets however are a Godsend for many dogs with colitis and IBD symptoms but each dog is different. You might want to talk to your vet about trying one to see f it helps your frenchie. At our visit to the vet college, they asked that i try metamucil or psyllium husk to help firm up her stool. They believed a fibre source and a low fat diet is what she needed, but the approach was introduce one thing at a time. So we stayed on the royal canon hydrolyzed diet and added the psyllium husk. It started to make her stools a bit firm but it gave her extreme gas and bloating. And it was through a fluke when i dropped a boiled white potato and she ate it did i realize the next day that her stools was getting more formed. I kept giving her the potatoes and it helped her stole so much. but she was still vomiting so the vets put her on Rayne low fat kangaroo maintenance diet. Its a canned wet food (also available in kibble) and i continued to mix the mashed white potatoes in with the canned food and viola! No vomit no diarrhea or loose stools. We have had flare ups along the way but only when she eats anything outside of this food.

I also have to say she is on the following medications for stability. She is on 1 mg of budesonide which is a corticosteroid. She has been on it since last october ( i really want her off it because she cannot put on weight on it, she looses her fur and as very elevated liver enzymes). They are looking to start weaning her off soon. She is on a combo of 5 mg of pepcid AC and 10mg of metoclopramide times a day to help with the acid reflux and regurgitation. She is on denamarin which is to help lower her liver enzymes. When she has a colitis flare up, we give her powder tyrosine three times a day until it resolves. No one flare up is the same though. Some are over in two days and others take 3 weeks. Good luck with your pup. Let me know if you have any more questions.

 

[Mush2017]

Morning sorry I've not posted in a few days had so much b going on here's a update on little fluzzie
last week she became really unwell just water and blood coming from her went back to vet they give her another injection and said to give her chicken and rice ( what a mistake this made her a lot worse with sickness) I took her back on friday again took advice from ( HONEYS OWNERS I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH ) I asked vet about metronidazole they give her a weeks worth and omg what a difference in the 3 weeks ive had her this is the first totally normal pops she's having .... I'm so glad I've been so worried you guys have been Great Thank You

I feed them on wainwrites Turkey and rice fluzzie hasn't had it for a while because of her bland diet
I'm little worried about giving it her because how the chicken made her
Do you have any suggestions also how long would you keep her on fish and rice


Thank You all

 

[Honeys Owners]

Pure pet foods put out a good dehydrated raw food. Farmina is a good brand, from Italy.
Also, dont forget give the canned pumpkin (pure, not pie filling) , and an enzyme probiotic product like Herbsmith Microflora Plus ( give this a couple hours before or after antibiotic )

 

[MunasG]

Morning sorry I've not posted in a few days had so much b going on here's a update on little fluzzie
last week she became really unwell just water and blood coming from her went back to vet they give her another injection and said to give her chicken and rice ( what a mistake this made her a lot worse with sickness) I took her back on friday again took advice from ( HONEYS OWNERS I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH ) I asked vet about metronidazole they give her a weeks worth and omg what a difference in the 3 weeks ive had her this is the first totally normal pops she's having .... I'm so glad I've been so worried you guys have been Great Thank You

I feed them on wainwrites Turkey and rice fluzzie hasn't had it for a while because of her bland diet
I'm little worried about giving it her because how the chicken made her
Do you have any suggestions also how long would you keep her on fish and rice


Thank You all

If she could not tolerate chicken, i will avoid feeding her the turkey just in case. Have you tried a limited ingredient fish diet or a novel protein like rabbit. it may be best that going with a feathered bird option.