Newbie needs help

[Vega]

Hi everyone, I'm trying to buy a frenchy, I don't know much about them just what I've read on the imternet... Anyway I've found one for a reasonable price of £650 (girl) ive inserted a couple of pics that the owner has sent me, and was wondering if anyone here could tell me just by looking at the photos whether she is a full frenchy before I make the journey to purchase her...I don't know if it's possible just to tell by pictures, Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance

 

[MaplesMommy]

The pictures dont make it look like a reputable breeder. You need to see a nice head shot and the dog standing on all 4.

Also, Im not sure how much 650 pounds are but good frenchies arent cheap.

What do you know about the parents?

 

[Squishy Walnuts]

I agree, those pictures are hard to tell but it doesn't look like reputable breeder. I would go visit them to see the puppies and parents and be armed with a bunch of questions, which you can google online.

It's about $1000 US ($1200 CDN).

 

[winginit66]

I agree. If you are interested, you should go and visit. Some people aren't as good w/ photos as others, so it's hard to tell with these. Appears to be a Frenchie and I am not surprised that the ears are not up. She's cute!

 

[Alice Kable]

I would follow the advice given and go take a look at her. She certainly does look like a Frenchie, but you want to see both parents if possible and ask about health issues. Good breeders breed for health and temperament. That is really important. What you pay up front for a Frenchie is NOTHING compared to what you'll pay in medical expenses if you get an unhealthy pet.

 

[blushy]

I agree. If you are interested, you should go and visit. Some people aren't as good w/ photos as others, so it's hard to tell with these. Appears to be a Frenchie and I am not surprised that the ears are not up. She's cute!

I agree with this. Our breeder we got isabelle from has Lupus, so rounding up pups & such are not easy for her. Some people also choose to not spend money on a nice camera so you get some "eh" pics. And so far isabelle is much healthier than our new pup, Titan. So it's not always the pics that matter.

I would definitely agree with what was said above about going to visit, and be armed with many, many questions. Maybe even print them out so you don't forget any.

She looks adorable, so I would go visit. worst thing? you leave without her... Best thing? you get her!


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[shortstuff]

I don't think your biggest concern at this point shouldn't necessarily be if the pup is pure bred or not... those are some sketchy photos, the price is extremely low, and I'm nervous that you haven't met the puppy yet. Honestly, I'd check out the puppies and where they're being kept, vet records, etc. before you hand over any money. Research is important; I'd do some on what to look for from a reputable breeder! A backyard bred puppy may be cheaper at first, but you'll likely have to spend a whole lot more on him/her later on due to health issues that shouldn't be present in a well-bred puppy.

The decision is ultimately yours and we support you and your possible new baby regardless... just be careful!! Before we got Bisou, we had multiple people online attempting to scam us and multiple backyard bred cheap puppies taunting us. We went with a higher price tag and the results are SO worth it!

 

[Vega]

Thanks everyone. The price is a bit low for a frenchy, parents aren't available for viewing so I think I'm going spend a little more time looking, and more money! I haven't seen her as she's quite a long way away from me... Thanks again

 

[Tgirl]

I think that's a good idea. Something will come along, and it will be worth the wait.

 

[Jakeyjake]

Thanks everyone. The price is a bit low for a frenchy, parents aren't available for viewing so I think I'm going spend a little more time looking, and more money! I haven't seen her as she's quite a long way away from me... Thanks again

I agree that you should look a little more. I would try and find a reputable breeder in your area. Even if they don't have any available puppies now, perhaps they can tell you when they are expecting another litter. Good luck to you.

 

[Vega]

Thanks I'l try that

 

[2bullymama]

That can be a total scam, puppy may not even exist -- you send money and they never contact you again. Agree with the others, do more research - you'll find your baby in time

 

[Alice Kable]

When the mother is not available to see sends up a big red flag, like is the puppy stolen, did the mother die, etc.???

 

[blushy]

When the mother is not available to see sends up a big red flag, like is the puppy stolen, did the mother die, etc.???

This...

Id try not to get a pup without seeing at least 1 of the parents.

With isabelle we saw her mother and litter mates and with Titan she owned his father, so we met him.

Seems like maybe someone is breeding, and then someone is taking the pups and distributing them... Not a reputable way of selling Frenchies...

Sorry this seems to have fell through! You'll fine a baby! It's better to wait it out than jump on something like that. Titan was a quick find/purchase and he still cost a pretty penny, and had a parasite (which the breeder paid for his 2 meds for us after we took him to the vet and learned of it).


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[Squishy Walnuts]

It does sound like either a scam or a puppy mill breeder. Makes me so sad, and mad.

Good luck with your search! Frenchies are not cheap but they are SO worth it!

 

[davidh]

Welcome to the site and I would pass on this pup. Sounds like a puppy broker since the mom is not available. Probably came from a puppy mill. The pics are not that good, but from what I can see the nose is a little long.

 

[MamaAndi]

If you tell us the general area you are located in we could point you in the direction of a rescue. The adoption fees are low compared to the cost of buying a frenchie pup plus they can tell you all about the dogs personality

Good luck either way you go

 

[Fosta Mama]

I have copy and pasted this from FBRN's website:


I'd like to buy a French bulldog from a breeder, but I'm not sure what to look for and what to avoid. I have heard that lots of websites are just covers for puppy brokers who import dogs from Europe that are sick and not socialized. How do I know who is a good breeder and who is not?

This is a great question. Websites can be very deceptive, and folks who want a pet Frenchie but have no background in the breed can be easily tempted by flashy sites and cute puppy pictures! Here's a list of red flags to watch for when you are looking at a website:

Puppy Miller/ Backyard Breeder/Dog Broker website RED flags

(If two or three of the red flags below appear during your puppy-seeking process, whether on the website or during discussions with the breeder...RUN!)

1. If they accept PayPal or credit cards online on their website.....RUN!

2. If they demand a non-refundable deposit from you......RUN!

3. If they do not proudly show photos and pedigrees of their dogs on their site.......RUN!

4. If they do not do any health testing of their dogs........RUN!

5. If they show pictures of scared, skinny, little, pathetic-looking puppies......RUN!

6. If they can not, or are unwilling to provide veterinary or puppy purchaser references for you.......RUN!

7. If they do not offer a health guarantee that covers the health of that puppy for at least one year.........RUN!

8. If they do not belong to any dog clubs, breed organizations, etc......RUN!

9. If they try to pressure you to buy a puppy in any way............RUN!

10. If they don't show their dogs in any true dog sport activities (conformation, obedience, etc.)....RUN!

11. If they say they will ship "WORLDWIDE" anywhere, at any time.........RUN!

12. If they don't question you as thoroughly as if you were adopting a human infant.........RUN!

13. If they have many dogs available at all times, and also many other breeds of dogs for sale on their website......RUN!

14. If they are offended when you ask them about any of the above mentioned items....RUN!


Now that you know what the red flags are, you can go to the French Bulldog Club of America website and check out the list of breeders who belong to the national club. There might be someone near you who will be willing to talk to you about French bulldogs and their special needs and limitations. Do not expect to be able to buy a puppy this week, next month or off the shelf for a Christmas present! French bulldogs are, unfortunately, the latest trendy dog in a long and shifting history of trendy breeds. If you are serious about wanting a healthy, well bred, even-tempered companion you should be prepared to wait several months, and if you are hoping for a dog from a specific breeder, perhaps longer. It is unlikely that you will experience instant gratification as you search for your Frenchie. Purchase in haste, repent (and pay vet bills, behaviorist bills, and trainer bills) in leisure. Whatever you do, resist the impulse to buy a French bulldog from a pet store! Pet stores are "stocked" by puppy mills and backyard breeders whose first concern is profit, not health, not temperament, and not the well-being of the breeding "stock."

 

[blushy]

I have copy and pasted this from FBRN's website:


I'd like to buy a French bulldog from a breeder, but I'm not sure what to look for and what to avoid. I have heard that lots of websites are just covers for puppy brokers who import dogs from Europe that are sick and not socialized. How do I know who is a good breeder and who is not?

This is a great question. Websites can be very deceptive, and folks who want a pet Frenchie but have no background in the breed can be easily tempted by flashy sites and cute puppy pictures! Here's a list of red flags to watch for when you are looking at a website:

Puppy Miller/ Backyard Breeder/Dog Broker website RED flags

(If two or three of the red flags below appear during your puppy-seeking process, whether on the website or during discussions with the breeder...RUN!)

1. If they accept PayPal or credit cards online on their website.....RUN!

2. If they demand a non-refundable deposit from you......RUN!

3. If they do not proudly show photos and pedigrees of their dogs on their site.......RUN!

4. If they do not do any health testing of their dogs........RUN!

5. If they show pictures of scared, skinny, little, pathetic-looking puppies......RUN!

6. If they can not, or are unwilling to provide veterinary or puppy purchaser references for you.......RUN!

7. If they do not offer a health guarantee that covers the health of that puppy for at least one year.........RUN!

8. If they do not belong to any dog clubs, breed organizations, etc......RUN!

9. If they try to pressure you to buy a puppy in any way............RUN!

10. If they don't show their dogs in any true dog sport activities (conformation, obedience, etc.)....RUN!

11. If they say they will ship "WORLDWIDE" anywhere, at any time.........RUN!

12. If they don't question you as thoroughly as if you were adopting a human infant.........RUN!

13. If they have many dogs available at all times, and also many other breeds of dogs for sale on their website......RUN!

14. If they are offended when you ask them about any of the above mentioned items....RUN!


Now that you know what the red flags are, you can go to the French Bulldog Club of America website and check out the list of breeders who belong to the national club. There might be someone near you who will be willing to talk to you about French bulldogs and their special needs and limitations. Do not expect to be able to buy a puppy this week, next month or off the shelf for a Christmas present! French bulldogs are, unfortunately, the latest trendy dog in a long and shifting history of trendy breeds. If you are serious about wanting a healthy, well bred, even-tempered companion you should be prepared to wait several months, and if you are hoping for a dog from a specific breeder, perhaps longer. It is unlikely that you will experience instant gratification as you search for your Frenchie. Purchase in haste, repent (and pay vet bills, behaviorist bills, and trainer bills) in leisure. Whatever you do, resist the impulse to buy a French bulldog from a pet store! Pet stores are "stocked" by puppy mills and backyard breeders whose first concern is profit, not health, not temperament, and not the well-being of the breeding "stock."

I just want to pop in and mention those are fabulous tips. I also want to pop in and say that the breeder that we got Titan from (if anyone is reading my posts you know this has been bad) had the father on site, certifications, took her dogs to shows, contract, answered every question we asked or could think to ask, was a certified therapy dog trainer, didn't ship their dogs out unless it was a replacement puppy for contract reasons and owner pays fees and etc, and many others were not a red flag. She had 3 of her frenchies with us and they were all so healthy and happy and precious, extremely sweet, nothing honestly threw up red flags, we have a health guarantee etc, and she's not holding true to her word. She had acres of land, gorgeous house, her kids were around. Nothing at all was a bad vibe at all! So if ANY of these not even 2 or 3, ANY of those happen, avoid the dog like the plague. Unless you're prepared for vet bills and stress galore. Please take it from me im living it, it's terrifying. We didn't expect any of this! And now that we have the dog the breeder is obviously not reputable ! I hope nobody else has to go through this! So just wanted to add to this!


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