Nare surgery

Fosta Mama · Jul 12, 2015

MickieBlue said:
Oh yeah, he was really closed up before it.

Was it just nares for him, or did they trim the palate, too? How was recovery?

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Remy had both- nares and palate done. He's not an active dog, so recovery was easy. All my dogs who need ESP surgery go to a board-certified surgeon and stay the night at a 24 hour hospital. There is a real risk of airway closure due to swelling and also aspiration, so it is not a surgery to take lightly.

MickieBlue · Jul 12, 2015

Fosta Mama said:
Remy had both- nares and palate done. He's not an active dog, so recovery was easy. All my dogs who need ESP surgery go to a board-certified surgeon and stay the night at a 24 hour hospital. There is a real risk of airway closure due to swelling and also aspiration, so it is not a surgery to take lightly.

What Vet do you go to? I was going to take him to Dr. Kraemer in Orange for the consultation. I live down in Oceanside.

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Fosta Mama · Jul 12, 2015

MickieBlue said:
What Vet do you go to? I was going to take him to Dr. Kraemer in Orange for the consultation. I live down in Oceanside.

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Gosh, it's been a few years now so I don't recall. I've even used a "traveling" surgeon who came to my local vet's office and then transferred my dog to the 24-hr EV for observation. I believe Dr. Tarvin has done one of them: VCA Veterinarians, Vet Specialists & DVMs in San Diego, CA | VCA Animal Specialty Group

MickieBlue · Jul 12, 2015

Fosta Mama said:
Gosh, it's been a few years now so I don't recall. I've even used a "traveling" surgeon who came to my local vet's office and then transferred my dog to the 24-hr EV for observation. I believe Dr. Tarvin has done one of them: VCA Veterinarians, Vet Specialists & DVMs in San Diego, CA | VCA Animal Specialty Group

Thank you! [emoji4]

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davidh · Jul 13, 2015

It does sound like a palate issue since he is getting upper respiratory infections, and be careful as it can lead to aspiration pneumonia, which can go down hill quickly.

2bullymama · Jul 14, 2015

turbodave said:
I don't completely understand the nare surgery thing, can anyone show some before and after pix so I can better understand.

a lot of it is internal and you may not 'see' a difference, but you will hear and notice it in energy level

MickieBlue · Jul 14, 2015

davidh said:
It does sound like a palate issue since he is getting upper respiratory infections, and be careful as it can lead to aspiration pneumonia, which can go down hill quickly.

We have a consultation scheduled for Saturday with a vet who has several years of experience treating brachy breeds. This last time he was sick scared me to no end, so I'd like it examined ASAP. I'm hoping he doesn't need surgery, but if he does and it will mean a better quality of life, I'm all about it!

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MickieBlue · Jul 18, 2015

Just got done with visit. The Dr. put him under mild sedation and examined him. Does not recommend palate or nare surgery.

Wants us to try an air filter near his crate and elevate his food bowls. He has a suspicion that when he regurgitates his food, it could've caused aspiration that lead to the infection.

He sometimes eats his food so fast, it causes him to regurgitate it immediately.

Loved this vet. Took his time, was super patient, and answered all of our questions. Was definitely worth the trip.

Thanks everyone for your input and help! [emoji4]

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davidh · Jul 18, 2015

Cool, I hope it works, and maybe a slow feed bowl will help too.

MickieBlue · Jul 18, 2015

davidh said:
Cool, I hope it works, and maybe a slow feed bowl will help too.

We have one and the little bugger has figured put how to eat out of it quickly. LOL. I am going to try the elevated bowl with a giant stainless steel ball and see if that helps.

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palmetto · Feb 16, 2016

Our vet said that recent research suggested doing the nares as early as possible. The additional airflow helps to keep other nasal tissue from growing too large/folded which can make breathing harder.

As always, get a second opinion if in doubt. But, many Frenchies require nares (easy surgery) and possibly soft palate or everted saccules as well to make sure they breath well and prevent bigger problems (laryngeal collapse) down the line.

blushy · Feb 16, 2016

palmetto said:
Our vet said that recent research suggested doing the nares as early as possible. The additional airflow helps to keep other nasal tissue from growing too large/folded which can make breathing harder.

As always, get a second opinion if in doubt. But, many Frenchies require nares (easy surgery) and possibly soft palate or everted saccules as well to make sure they breath well and prevent bigger problems (laryngeal collapse) down the line.

Our vet suggests waiting as long as possible to do nares because you want to make sure their head grows to its full potential to see how the nares develop naturally beforehand.

I don't need a vet to know our boy needs them done!

Lots of different opinions out there! Always good to have the different information from different vets and professionals (and just people like us!) all over the world!

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