Probiotics?

turbodave · Feb 25, 2017

Just throwing this out there for comment, advice and help.
What exactly are the benefits of a probiotic? Are they really really necessary? Such as ProBios.
I'm feeding it only because of suggestions. I don't really understand the necessity in a dog diet.

Help me out here. I also include cranberry powder for urinary health, and milk thistle for Bitty only because of her liver issues.

But it's the probiotics I'm wondering about.

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Alice Kable · Feb 25, 2017

Sorry, I really don't know. We don't give our dogs probiotics, they don't have digestive issues. I do give them small amounts of fruit and veggies daily. They love bananas, berries, apple, broccoli, green beans, red pepper, etc!

Hervé Eulacia · Feb 25, 2017

turbodave said:
Just throwing this out there for comment, advice and help.
What exactly are the benefits of a probiotic? Are they really really necessary? Such as ProBios.
I'm feeding it only because of suggestions. I don't really understand the necessity in a dog diet.

Help me out here. I also include cranberry powder for urinary health, and milk thistle for Bitty only because of her liver issues.

But it's the probiotics I'm wondering about.

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Not a single shred of scientific evidence supporting their use. Same as for humans. Like vitamin supplements, anti-wrinkle creams, Oprah and low-fat diets... It's just a matter of faith.

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Honeys Owners · Feb 25, 2017

Probiotics are great during and after a course of antibiotics to prevent overgrowth of resistant bacteria in the colon that can cause diarrhea and infection. That has been proven. Probiotics MAY also prevent respiratory tract infections, urinary tract infections, yeast infections, boost the immune system and help with allergies. So if you want to economize, make sure you give the probiotics during and after courses of antibiotics, and if you don't mind spending some extra money on your dog, give all the time.

davidh · Feb 25, 2017

I would definitely give some during and after giving antibiotics. Some people give them all the time, we just give them every once in awhile, so it's really just up to you. Some say it is beneficial to them, and helps their immune system.

turbodave · Feb 26, 2017

Now I am confused! One post says there's not a shred of evidence that they do anything. Then another post says they're good for just about any ailment a dog could have.

Yikes!! :facepalm:

Hervé Eulacia · Feb 26, 2017

turbodave said:
Now I am confused! One post says there's not a shred of evidence that they do anything. Then another post says they're good for just about any ailment a dog could have.

Yikes!! :facepalm:

Probiotics – Science-Based Medicine

Prevention of antibiotics-induced diarrhea is the only usage backed by science in human children and possibly adults.

All the rest is doubtful, at best... as for dogs... LOL well...

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Jakeyjake · Feb 26, 2017

I would only use them if your dog was having digestive issues or after a course of antibiotics. I have a golden/lab x that had trouble with soft stools for a few months and the probiotics helped.

Cbrugs · Feb 26, 2017

Jax sometimes has digestive issues and is super gassy without probiotics. I only give them once or twice a week but I can say without a doubt that he is less grassy since getting them.

Alice Kable · Feb 26, 2017

Cbrugs said:
Jax sometimes has digestive issues and is super gassy without probiotics. I only give them once or twice a week but I can say without a doubt that he is less grassy since getting them.

Would BEANO have the same result? I really know nothing about probiotics!

Honeys Owners · Feb 26, 2017

There are randomized controlled trials of probiotics that were shown to prevent antibiotic associated colitis in adults, not just in children.
1) Beausoleil et al (2007) L. acidophilus and L. casei (25 x 109 CFU/day for 2 days, then 50 x 109 CFU/day for duration of the antibiotic course) 89 adults (inpatients) Antibiotic-associated diarrhea occurred in 16% of treated patients and 36% of patients in placebo group (OR 0.34; 95% CI 0.12 to 0.94; p = 0.05) Bio-K
2)Hickson et al (2007) L. casei (19 x 109 CFU/day), L. bulgaris (1.9 x 109 CFU/day), and S. thermophiles (19 x 109 CFU/day) within 48 hours of starting antibiotic therapy until 7 days after discontinuation 135 adults (inpatients) Antibiotic-associated diarrhea occurred in 12% of treated patients and 34% of patients in placebo group (p = 0.007; aRR 0.17 [0.07–0.27]). Actimel (also known as Danactive in United States and Canada)

Hervé Eulacia · Feb 26, 2017

Honeys Owners said:
There are randomized controlled trials of probiotics that were shown to prevent antibiotic associated colitis in adults, not just in children.
1) Beausoleil et al (2007) L. acidophilus and L. casei (25 x 109 CFU/day for 2 days, then 50 x 109 CFU/day for duration of the antibiotic course) 89 adults (inpatients) Antibiotic-associated diarrhea occurred in 16% of treated patients and 36% of patients in placebo group (OR 0.34; 95% CI 0.12 to 0.94; p = 0.05) Bio-K
2)Hickson et al (2007) L. casei (19 x 109 CFU/day), L. bulgaris (1.9 x 109 CFU/day), and S. thermophiles (19 x 109 CFU/day) within 48 hours of starting antibiotic therapy until 7 days after discontinuation 135 adults (inpatients) Antibiotic-associated diarrhea occurred in 12% of treated patients and 34% of patients in placebo group (p = 0.007; aRR 0.17 [0.07–0.27]). Actimel (also known as Danactive in United States and Canada)

Yes. Nothing earth-shattering and certainly a far cry from all the wondrous health claims of the supplements industry. Let alone the pet supplement industry...

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