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[2bullymama]

I asked them that yesterday and they said with her being so thin that they have trouble putting the needle where it needs to go but when she puts on a little bit of weight they will show me how to do it if need be. This is what makes me so angry because if they would have suggested that before she lost a lot of weight and got so dehydrated this probably would happen. I told them in the beginning that she wouldn’t drink a lot of water. I had no idea you could do sub q fluid at home until I read it online the other day.

This angers me... it seems they did nothing to really help or prevent some of the issues


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[GraciesMom]

One thing I want to point out is that if Chloe continues to eat the canned food she will get a lot of hydration from that alone. When I switched Gracie from kibble to canned she rarely drank water. She would go for days without drinking. I raised this with our vet and he was not at all concerned. She urinated a lot, it was well diluted, her gums were pink, etc. Now she is on raw with the same effect. She only drinks if someone gives her a dry treat, it's particularly hot or she's running around a lot. Otherwise she never approaches her water bowl. So if Chloe continues to eat the canned food that will help with both nutrition and hydration. This is not to say you shouldn't be on top of it, but at this point it may be why she isn't drinking.

 

[Wallaced005]

One thing I want to point out is that if Chloe continues to eat the canned food she will get a lot of hydration from that alone. When I switched Gracie from kibble to canned she rarely drank water. She would go for days without drinking. I raised this with our vet and he was not at all concerned. She urinated a lot, it was well diluted, her gums were pink, etc. Now she is on raw with the same effect. She only drinks if someone gives her a dry treat, it's particularly hot or she's running around a lot. Otherwise she never approaches her water bowl. So if Chloe continues to eat the canned food that will help with both nutrition and hydration. This is not to say you shouldn't be on top of it, but at this point it may be why she isn't drinking.

Let’s hope that is the case graciesmom. I just gave her her medication and I swear she is a magician. The baytril is a tablet and man she holds it in her mouth until I walk away and now I know to check all the time because I have picked up her blanket and there is the pill. I tried to give her water with a syringe again and she keeps turning her head. I don’t want to have to keep forcing water if she doesn’t want it but I am scared that she is going to get dehydrated again.
I am quite jealous of my husband, mom, and kids because Chloe will give them all kinds of kisses but not me. I wonder if she is mad at me for forcing water, food, and meds on and off the past few months.

 

[Honeys Owners]

Let’s hope that is the case graciesmom. I just gave her her medication and I swear she is a magician. The baytril is a tablet and man she holds it in her mouth until I walk away and now I know to check all the time because I have picked up her blanket and there is the pill. I tried to give her water with a syringe again and she keeps turning her head. I don’t want to have to keep forcing water if she doesn’t want it but I am scared that she is going to get dehydrated again.
I am quite jealous of my husband, mom, and kids because Chloe will give them all kinds of kisses but not me. I wonder if she is mad at me for forcing water, food, and meds on and off the past few months.

[MENTION=2]2bullymama[/MENTION] for suggestions for hiding the tablet- I think she likes watermelon if I remember.

When I had to give my dog Clavulin I would crush it up and mix it with a bit of water in a syringe and have someone hold her while I syringed it in.

Is your vet confident it's colitis and your dog needs the Baytril? It's not supposed to be given to puppies as it can damage growing cartilage.

 

[2bullymama]

Let’s hope that is the case graciesmom. I just gave her her medication and I swear she is a magician. The baytril is a tablet and man she holds it in her mouth until I walk away and now I know to check all the time because I have picked up her blanket and there is the pill. I tried to give her water with a syringe again and she keeps turning her head. I don’t want to have to keep forcing water if she doesn’t want it but I am scared that she is going to get dehydrated again.
I am quite jealous of my husband, mom, and kids because Chloe will give them all kinds of kisses but not me. I wonder if she is mad at me for forcing water, food, and meds on and off the past few months.

Yes, I hide pills in watermelon, vanilla ice cream or liverwurst. All never fail for my crew. I keep one of the three in the house all the time cause you never know when you’re going to need it


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[GraciesMom]

Let’s hope that is the case graciesmom. I just gave her her medication and I swear she is a magician. The baytril is a tablet and man she holds it in her mouth until I walk away and now I know to check all the time because I have picked up her blanket and there is the pill. I tried to give her water with a syringe again and she keeps turning her head. I don’t want to have to keep forcing water if she doesn’t want it but I am scared that she is going to get dehydrated again.
I am quite jealous of my husband, mom, and kids because Chloe will give them all kinds of kisses but not me. I wonder if she is mad at me for forcing water, food, and meds on and off the past few months.

I think Chloe will forgive you. While our situation was not exactly the same, Gracie was very sickly in her first six months of life. She had giardia (for months), coccidia, vaginitis, yeast ear infections, a UTI (for months), pneumonia, liver damage, and demodectic mange. She peed and pooped constantly and we were always coaxing her to take medications, usually several at a time. She endured multiple hospitalizations, X-rays, MRI's, needle sticks, blood draws, etc. She was only 3 lbs at 9 weeks when we got her and only about 6 lbs at 5 months. We despaired of ever having a normal dog. Yet here we are. She is a healthy -- a burley 16 lbs at 10 months. Despite all the poking, prodding, sticking and coaxing, she adores people, including us (a miracle). So once you get past the current crisis and interact with her differently, I think it likely that she will happily seek out your company.

 

[Wallaced005]

I think Chloe will forgive you. While our situation was not exactly the same, Gracie was very sickly in her first six months of life. She had giardia (for months), coccidia, vaginitis, yeast ear infections, a UTI (for months), pneumonia, liver damage, and demodectic mange. She peed and pooped constantly and we were always coaxing her to take medications, usually several at a time. She endured multiple hospitalizations, X-rays, MRI's, needle sticks, blood draws, etc. She was only 3 lbs at 9 weeks when we got her and only about 6 lbs at 5 months. We despaired of ever having a normal dog. Yet here we are. She is a healthy -- a burley 16 lbs at 10 months. Despite all the poking, prodding, sticking and coaxing, she adores people, including us (a miracle). So once you get past the current crisis and interact with her differently, I think it likely that she will happily seek out your company.

So when Gracie was that sick did she just lay around and sleep? Chloe doesn’t do anything except walk a few wobble steps to use the bathroom and then just plops in the grass and lays down.
I always see these Frenchie puppies on Facebook and they are so chubby and running around playing. I so very badly want Chloe to do that. I can’t wait to hear her bark again.

 

[Wallaced005]

Yes, I hide pills in watermelon, vanilla ice cream or liverwurst. All never fail for my crew. I keep one of the three in the house all the time cause you never know when you’re going to need it


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Liverwurst that’s a great one that I haven’t thought of. I am trying not to give her anything but the hills a/d because every time I give her something else she stops eating. I am going to stick with the hard way for now.
And vanilla ice cream I didn’t think they could’t Have that.

 

[2bullymama]

Liverwurst that’s a great one that I haven’t thought of. I am trying not to give her anything but the hills a/d because every time I give her something else she stops eating. I am going to stick with the hard way for now.
And vanilla ice cream I didn’t think they could’t Have that.

Ice cream, you only need enough to cover the pill, it is cold so they just swallow


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[Wallaced005]

[MENTION=2]2bullymama[/MENTION] for suggestions for hiding the tablet- I think she likes watermelon if I remember.

When I had to give my dog Clavulin I would crush it up and mix it with a bit of water in a syringe and have someone hold her while I syringed it in.

Is your vet confident it's colitis and your dog needs the Baytril? It's not supposed to be given to puppies as it can damage growing cartilage.

[MENTION=2100]Honeys Owners[/MENTION] the specialist is pretty certain that it is granulomatous colitis and that is why she prescribed baytril. She said since she is so small the chances of cartilage damage are very unlikely. She the larger the breed the higher the risk.

 

[GraciesMom]

The one positive in our situation was that Gracie would always eat, at least once we started her on canned foods. She ate very little kibble which is why we switched to canned and later to raw. We had to get weight on her. So she had energy but there were certainly days when she was lethargic and mostly slept. The whole period was like an emotional roller coaster. We just couldn't shake the giardia and UTI, and then it was one thing after another. We just kept thinking if we could only get her through whatever the latest crisis was she'd be okay. And then she was. I think she just aged into a stronger immune system.

 

[GraciesMom]

One other thing -- like you, we were feeding her prescription Hills. She was initially on w/d to help with the diarrhea and then low fat to support her liver, then back to w/d again. We also chose to stick with this regime until her health improved and we could transition her to raw. We were reluctant to change the food until her liver values returned to normal and we finally got a clean Elisa test indicating the giardia was finally gone.

 

[Wallaced005]

Ok guys nothing but good news today. Chloe is eating very well for me the past three days. She eats at least a can a day. I am having trouble getting her to drink much but I have been adding water to her food. I did get sub q fluids from the vet yesterday and just doing 50ml a day with those while encouraging her to drink. She has gained 8 ounces from Saturday which I am so excited about. She still has diarrhea still but I have been sneaking rice in her can food and she gobbles it up. Her poo is more like runny peanut butter, sorry tmi but dang I am so excited I even texted my husband a pic of her poo! Lol! She is definitely improving slowly but I am over the moon about it. I really hope she continues in this direction. I can’t wait until she is running around and being a pain in the butt! Oh and she actually gave me a little kiss this morning��

 

[Cbrugs]

Ok guys nothing but good news today. Chloe is eating very well for me the past three days. She eats at least a can a day. I am having trouble getting her to drink much but I have been adding water to her food. I did get sub q fluids from the vet yesterday and just doing 50ml a day with those while encouraging her to drink. She has gained 8 ounces from Saturday which I am so excited about. She still has diarrhea still but I have been sneaking rice in her can food and she gobbles it up. Her poo is more like runny peanut butter, sorry tmi but dang I am so excited I even texted my husband a pic of her poo! Lol! She is definitely improving slowly but I am over the moon about it. I really hope she continues in this direction. I can’t wait until she is running around and being a pain in the butt! Oh and she actually gave me a little kiss this morning��

This is so great to hear!

 

[Honeys Owners]

Ok so when she had the IV fluids it ended up coming out in the night because her veins are so bad from the IV fluids so she ended up with sub q fluids. They wanted to keep her until Monday but I could not leave her there again. The main reason I did not want to leave her is because they closed at noon yesterday and they do not have someone there with her all the time. And second the cost. Just for the one night was 400. I am tapped out.
Good news is she is eating so far since she came home yesterday one can of the hills urgent care. I am just going to stick with that for now until I get her healthy again. The hard part is keeping her hydrated. She seems to have no interest in liquids of any kind. I am pushing 2 ounces water through a syringe every 3 hours which takes me about 45 minutes to get her to drink. She is getting stronger just very slowly. I am putting a little pumpkin in her food each time to hopefully slow gown the diarrhea. I know if I can just keep her hydrated and eating good she will turn around.
The one thing that I don’t understand is why the vets keep prescribing metronidazole when one of the side effects is diarrhea.
Anyway I talked with the breeder yesterday and was telling her all about this and as much as I really hate this if she does not turn around or make considerable progress we will unfortunately give her back. I so don’t want to do that at all but I can’t afford to keep taking her back and forth to the vet and I surely can’t continue to watch her like it has been any longer. I know you all must be disappointed in hearing this but I have done all that I can think of to help her. I am hoping that this week she does turn around and I won’t have to give her up.
Thank you all so much for your support I really do appreciate this very much. I will keep you all updated on her.

So glad Chloe is doing better !!! Metronidazole covers a wide range of causes of diarrhea so it's more likely to cure it than to cause it.

 

[2bullymama]

Ok guys nothing but good news today. Chloe is eating very well for me the past three days. She eats at least a can a day. I am having trouble getting her to drink much but I have been adding water to her food. I did get sub q fluids from the vet yesterday and just doing 50ml a day with those while encouraging her to drink. She has gained 8 ounces from Saturday which I am so excited about. She still has diarrhea still but I have been sneaking rice in her can food and she gobbles it up. Her poo is more like runny peanut butter, sorry tmi but dang I am so excited I even texted my husband a pic of her poo! Lol! She is definitely improving slowly but I am over the moon about it. I really hope she continues in this direction. I can’t wait until she is running around and being a pain in the butt! Oh and she actually gave me a little kiss this morning

AAAAAAAA.... sequel!! I’m too happy to hear this... wonderful!! I continue to pray and hope this is the corner she needed to turn!

Great work Momma... keep us posted


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[Jcstorlie]

I read your excitement and it brings tears to my eyes. Your family and Chloe have been through way too much. Ecstatic for Chloe that she’s coming around!!


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[Frenchie Grrrl]

Yay!!! I am so, so glad that she's been eating more. Hopefully, her stools will firm up as her digestive system heals a bit. ray:

 

[GraciesMom]

I am sooooo happy to hear Chloe is improving. And this is due to you being such a dedicated advocate on her behalf. My continued best wishes that it just keeps getting better from here.

 

[2bullymama]

AAAAAAAA.... sequel!! I’m too happy to hear this... wonderful!! I continue to pray and hope this is the corner she needed to turn!

Great work Momma... keep us posted


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How is miss Chloe doing?


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